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stz · Jul 20, 2005, 05:02 PM // 17:02

I have red a few threads about the intergrated video cards.. and i am wondering if there is anyone running GW with an intel graphics controller..

Kiroh · Jul 20, 2005, 05:15 PM // 17:15

I just picked up my new PC yesterday; seems to be running fine with an Intel 915G so far... Beats the hell out of the GeForce 2 MX I was using before

The mainboard is a D915GAV.

stz · Jul 20, 2005, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiroh

I just picked up my new PC yesterday; seems to be running fine with an Intel 915G so far... Beats the hell out of the GeForce 2 MX I was using before

The mainboard is a D915GAV.

I am talking about the older versions..

Kiroh · Jul 20, 2005, 06:13 PM // 18:13

Oh well, can't help you there, except to say that the game ran fairly well with my GeForce 2 MX (64Mb) on a system with a 1 GHz Duron and 512 Mb RAM. I received the same error message about unsupported video cards the first time I ran GW, but I had no problems using lower quality settings.

Maybe do a feature comparison between the GeForce 2 MX and the Intel chipset that's on your mainboard?

Only real way to tell is to actually play it on your system.

stz · Jul 20, 2005, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiroh

Oh well, can't help you there, except to say that the game ran fairly well with my GeForce 2 MX (64Mb) on a system with a 1 GHz Duron and 512 Mb RAM. I received the same error message about unsupported video cards the first time I ran GW, but I had no problems using lower quality settings.

Maybe do a feature comparison between the GeForce 2 MX and the Intel chipset that's on your mainboard?

Only real way to tell is to actually play it on your system.

Already did this mistake once with HL2...

I had just above the minimum sys requirements..

I got the game.. i installed it (2 times.. and each time took me about 40 mins..)

And i could not beleive this.. took me about 10-15 mins to load, sometimes it freezes etc. My FPS was 3-5 (5max)

Right now i bought more memory, and i have less lag, my fps is arround 20-30 (playable) with low graphics, still fun though.

So i dont want the same thing happening with GW (as i heard with intergrated cards, it crashes o.O)

So i need more oppinions..

AceSnyp3r · Jul 20, 2005, 06:34 PM // 18:34

It should run the game playably, if only on the lowest settings.

EtrnalXellotath · Jul 20, 2005, 06:48 PM // 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by stz

Already did this mistake once with HL2...

I had just above the minimum sys requirements..

I got the game.. i installed it (2 times.. and each time took me about 40 mins..)

And i could not beleive this.. took me about 10-15 mins to load, sometimes it freezes etc. My FPS was 3-5 (5max)

Right now i bought more memory, and i have less lag, my fps is arround 20-30 (playable) with low graphics, still fun though.

So i dont want the same thing happening with GW (as i heard with intergrated cards, it crashes o.O)

So i need more oppinions..

I have an intel videocard (of the chipset family) And it always crashes. At first, it was every 15 minutes or so. Then, I found this little nifty device of a video emulator online (Nvidia). I turned all of my settings on low, and tried it. It will still crash, especially if you move stuff around in your inventory while you're on the field, but it will take over an hour to crash on pure gameplay.

Try not to open your inventory while on the field (I.E. killing monsters, etc), and you should be okay. You will crash occasionally, but I think the game is worth it.

And if you're wondering "Hey, why doesnt she just get a new video card?"

Im on a brand spanking new Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop. You cant change video cards (as I also found out the hard way).

Good luck!

stz · Jul 20, 2005, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtrnalXellotath

I have an intel videocard (of the chipset family) And it always crashes. At first, it was every 15 minutes or so. Then, I found this little nifty device of a video emulator online (Nvidia). I turned all of my settings on low, and tried it. It will still crash, especially if you move stuff around in your inventory while you're on the field, but it will take over an hour to crash on pure gameplay.

Try not to open your inventory while on the field (I.E. killing monsters, etc), and you should be okay. You will crash occasionally, but I think the game is worth it.

And if you're wondering "Hey, why doesnt she just get a new video card?"

Im on a brand spanking new Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop. You cant change video cards (as I also found out the hard way).

Good luck!

I have gathered some info (i dont even have the game yet.. but i am getting ready lol), this might help *us* (the poor people who ended up having a crappy intel chipset.. intergrated.. *cries*)

NOTE: I did NOT write this, i gathered this all arround the forum and the net.

"Tutorial" For the Crappy Video Cards aka intergrated intel cards
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OK, I have a Toshiba Satellite A45-S121 with an (Un)Extreme Graphics 852 display and 512 MB sytem RAM. I was having tons of problems with my inventory screen, and after a lot of note taking here in the forums I applied a few fixes, and after about 5 hours of play time haven't had a single problem! Here's what I think fixed it, hopefully it helps everyone else who shares in my woes.

1) Go to http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDo...nload-8679.html and get the 6.14.10.3943 driver, and install it. (Posted by Knight Hound... thanks!)

2) Go to the advanced display settings for your adapter and edit the 3D settings. Change the memory footprint setting to "High" (it's probably at "Normal" right now). Apparently this forces the driver to constantly reserve the maximum amount of memory it could need. My guess is that the system was low on memory and trying to swap video RAM or something, who knows.

3) Go to the "troubleshooting" tab on the advanced display dialog. Move the slider down a notch. This setting I might try putting back tonight to see what happens, since I'm not sure what this accomplished. All I know is that it worked, so I'm including it. Steps 2 and 3 were provided by WonderDog, thank you!!

Lastly I installed DirectX 9.0c. Thanks a million Knight Hound and WonderDog, you have freed me from the dungeon that is my basement and allowed me to take my addiction anywhere!! ;-)

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First, let me say how new I am and excited to be playing Guild Wars, and I come to you with a fix to a common problem

I'm sure all you prospective buyers (who, like me, have Dell Dimension 2400's [there are a LOT of us]) are wondering whether your system can handle Guild Wars, and hearing the nightmarish bug stories has made you kinda scared to buy this game. Well, I am here to put your fears to rest

My computer (after an upgrade) has 768 MB of DDR RAM and Intel Extreme Integrated Graphics 2, an unworthy substitute for a nicer video card. I wasn't keen to chunk out 130$ for a new card, though, so I gave the game a shot

IT RUNS FINE WITH INTEL EXTREME GRAPHICS CHIPSETS, but only as long as you have enough RAM for your system (I'd spend the money if you don't have a good bit of RAM like I did before my upgrade). One of the first problems I ran in to while playing, however, was dealing with some ialmnrt5, and I feared I would have to buy a new video card after all.

I tried upgrading my drivers, but that only eased the problem a little. The game would still mess up almost everytime I tried to slide items around my inventory.

Then I read a suggestion to download an older version of the drivers for the chipset, and I did. I haven't had any trouble since!

Of course, this is all at the lowest setting, and the game runs (and looks, in my eyes) perfectly fine.

Intel® 82845G Graphics Controller

This is the driver version I upgraded to in attempt to fix that didn't help very much

14.10.0.4020

So I rolled back the driver version to this one (running a search for intel extreme 6.14.10.3889)
6.14.10.3889

I haven't had much trouble since, save for a little lag in very detailed areas.

I hope I helped ease your mind, my fellow lowend system users!

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GuildWars does not support most of the Intel Mother Boards, espically 82845G on-board. I found this fourm post and applied it to my Dell 2.4Ghz, 1gb ram, On-board 82845G video card laptop and it works. This may also work on some of the other 828xxG on-board video's.

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http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17362
From Poster: Vladd_Drac
On: 06-05-2005, 09:24 AM

Ok i Just got contacted by support saying the the 82845G integrated graphics is not supported. So we can pretty much say with all honesty that NCsoft does not plan to make a patch for us.

However I was able to work out some kind of fix.

first of all download this great tool called 3danalyze http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/tools/emutnl.htm
(this is also useful for SOME of the next gen games if you can't get them to run or install on your outdated machine)

Now have it open your GW .exe and check these boxes

http://www.ixtlanstudios.com/webimages/GW.jpg

I have spent many hours trying to get this to work and I have been testing this combo for about an hour with no prob. I can access inventories, and shops, select, etc without a crash.

I have noticed a few artifacts show up (such as a green square next to an NPC) but it is definately not severe, and I think we can live with it. Also on one occasion I got a wierd blacking out of an area on my screen. If this happens, just exit GW and reload.

Also if your text seems unclear, make sure to jump out of windowed mode in the options. For some reason 3danalyze will put the client in windowed mode (which it actually won't be, but it will say that it is). Once you put it back into resolution it clears up the aliasing.

Im hoping this fix will work for the 82856G guys as well, but i know it works for my 82845G, and im sure its probably the same hardware wise.

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I was getting nasty crashes 95% of the time when trying to drag and drop stuff in my invetory, and also when trying to re-allocate skills. It only seemed to go mental on my laptop when dragging overlay icons/sprites like the inventory items and skills, so after a bit of head scratching came up with this:-

1. Go to extreme graphics options - OpenGL.
Make sure memory footprint is set to "high" (this forces your card always to use 64mb of memory, rather than act dynamically, and is much more stable).

2. Go to your normal Display settings, then Settings, Advanced, Troubleshoot and drop the slider down one notch from the top (you can leave write combining on though). This troubleshooting setting is to troubleshoot issues with bitmap overlays (such as sprites, mouse pointers etc)... The area I had identified was causing my crashes.

Guildwars now runs flawlessly. I can drag, drop, and re-allocate skils to my hearts content. No crashes in the last 4 hours of stress test (compared to my usual 5 mins max!). Give it a bash and tell me how you get on!

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I hope this helps...

Nigy · Jul 25, 2005, 04:34 PM // 16:34

This puts some hope in me, since i really wantto get GW but have the intel integrated graphics....

However, although there are plenty of people saying it works, there are many saying that it crashes every 20 minutes, can do nothing with inventory...etc

so to STZ and anyone else running GW with the intel 82845g graphics controller:

firstly stz how much RAM do you have, and secondly, is it really still enjoyable?

I am worried that i will waste 50 bucks (a lot for me) because i will be able to play, but if i get in a city, it will lag to 3 FPS, and i will always ket kiilled because it will lag for me but no one else, so i get cut up in PVP or even in PVE, etc.

so, do you problems make it so you can be competative and it isn't as much fun, and lastly, does the above solutoin really work?
thanks

Purveyor Of Death · Apr 09, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

ive got some crappy integrated graphics too (dell dimension 2400) with only 512 RAM. at first it did crash every so often (blue screen etc)
all u have to do is install an older driver, which are more compatible, and u shouldnt have any problems. Well it worked perfectly fine for me for hours on end. i cant rmbr which one i used...just download a few and test em all out.
i havnt played gw in a while, and ive reformatted a few times since i last did, so im looking for the driver atm as well.
good luck x

Tachyon · Apr 09, 2007, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Holy thread necromancy, Batman!

Serenitude · Apr 09, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46

I have an intel 865G (Intel "Extreme" Graphics 2) chipset, and GW has always run fine for me. Until the weekend update, I have never had a crash. I have a P4 2.8 with 512 megs of RAM.

As some personal advice, your first instinct is to just turn all of the settings down to the lowest. While that certainly works, here's something interesting, for which I have no explanation:

Using the "Auto Detect" button, the game will set itself to higher settings, including medium shadows and high textures. This will actually run faster than the minimum settings on an 865G graphics chip. It defies all logic, and I don't know why, but it does.

And looks a heck of alot prettier, to boot ;-)